-Many deaths in the waters of Majorera during the weekend.
-Well, they should listen to the Marquis, if they listen to the Marquis the issue would be resolved.
-Yes, how?
-Well, look, very easy. We have the navy tied up at the naval base in Las Palmas, Spanish soldiers that we pay for with our money and our taxes. Neither Zapatero nor Adán Martín pays for them, the Canarian people pay for them. They could be doing humanitarian work instead of being tied up at the base. Humanitarian work between Africa and the Canary Islands with a ship equipped to be a collection center. A hospital ship and total protection directed by whoever is appropriate for these people who, some deceived and others of their own free will, want a better life. And that is completely resolved, no human being is lost, everyone is given coverage and on top of that there is exhaustive control. That is what must be done and stop with the nonsense. I already said it and they called me more or less 'crazy'. Well, there is the issue and I continue in it. The navy to guard the Canarian coasts, the navy to protect these families together with the Civil Guard or with the small patrol boats that we have here. And the issue is over. Because my biggest concern is the death of these poor people.
-Yes, which is also likely that it is not the four or five corpses that were taken but the 14 immigrants who have disappeared at sea and that not one more has been found. It is normal in this specific case, the number of deaths continues to increase and despite the SIVE and the good relations between Rodríguez Zapatero and the Alawite king, the reality is that this does not stop.
-Well, it will be party relations. From some party. I don't think anything, I don't think anything else, because the evidence is there. I refer to it. We currently have a serious problem, the call effect after having legalized so many immigrants in Spain, has provided us with a new problem with the continuity of avalanches and on top of that with deaths. And having to endure them on the island of Fuerteventura and specifically the municipalities themselves, stating in advance that the only thing that worries me is the death of these poor people, but the specific case is that it is not resolved because it is not wanted to be resolved. There is no capacity, these are not people capable of governing a nation or a region. And we are truly happy in the opposition and from there our message is always full of rigor and seriousness.
-How is Fuerteventura?
-The island where Unamuno was deported and where Álvarez de Miranda and Zatrústegui also were, already disappeared, and Miralles who were even there when I was doing military service in Puerto del Rosario and that I knew them perfectly and with them I learned to play dominoes, is an island that is adrift, an island where money is spent only on political cronyism with the relatives and friends of those who are governing, except in Betancuria, a small municipality on our island, and Antigua, where the PP governs. And not because the PP governs but because there is awareness of what a government really is for a municipality like ours, where you have to work with austerity, where you have to invest money well, where you cannot spend almost the entire budget in chapter number 1 of the budgets, where nothing is done for education, for health and where the only thing that worries is keeping the political commissars happy, the political "friends" and the political relatives of each of the leaders of the different institutions where they govern.
-Are you going on a trip?
-Yes, I am going to Las Palmas to testify before the judge.
-And that?
-I have to testify in a complaint from a surveyor who does not exist and then...
-Are you shaking?
-What?
-Are you shaking?
-No, no, I am one of the collaborators of justice and I always like things to be clear and in their right place. Therefore, I do not tremble because the courts of justice are always very respectable to me and we have to submit to them so that there is clarity in all the issues that are denounced and in all the issues that politicians execute.
-So, tranquility.
-Total and absolute. Also, I like to collaborate with justice.
-But who reported this to the courts?
-This was reported by the current corporation that understood that a surveyor who was missing a couple of subjects could not be hired as a surveyor. If that is all they have found me after 24 years, then I am very happy. Look, what problem am I going to have there, even more so when the surveyor career does not exist.
-By the way, how has the change of Tourism Councilor for the Territorial Policy Councilor been experienced in Fuerteventura? Have they improved, have they gained with the change?
-I think that if 'parasite' was the one we had before, 'parasite' is the one we have now. The people from Lanzarote are also conspicuous by their absence in the Government, because the one who is in charge there is Adán Martín's wife. Whether my countryman likes it or not and this boy is a friend of my brother Pepe, José Antonio González Arroyo, and that I have a great opinion of him because I think he is a serious and rigorous man, but friend if he doesn't move he has to leave it because the one who is in charge there is Adán Martín's wife. No more no less.
-What does José Juan Herrera do now?
-No, Herrerita to walk and be dictated. Raise your hand there when CC tells you and that's it and collect half a kilo and the matter is concluded.
-But Berriel is an effective man, isn't he?
-My namesake? Quite effective, if he was the one who prepared the entire 'watergate' in Tindaya, well who prepared it if not him from the Ministry of Industry. From a mining concession that had expired without ever having made a work plan or having deposited the money or the restoration project and it was put alive again to be able to buy it later in what they bought it. And suck up the two thousand and pico million pesetas that nobody knows where they are. The biggest criticism I make of Herrera is that he has been in the Ministry of Tourism where he could have clarified all this, because nobody better than Fuerteventura to clarify what the mountain is and yet he has not even worried.
-Maybe he was exhausted.
-No, it is not that he was exhausted, he was conditioned. These sell the island of Fuerteventura for a position in the Government. Both one and the other. They don't care about the island.
-They say that the PP is divided.
-You know that if from the division, the best part touches you, then you are in luck. I think that the PP is quite united, there are people who were really not comfortable in the PP and that I think that this is the time to make decisions and go where they have to go, in the places where everyone really fits. As Juancho Armas Marcelo said, that the last refuge of the scoundrel was nationalism and then Benito Codina has gone there.
-The same Benito Codina that you recommended at the time?
-No, no, I recommended Benito Codina to you, candidate for the Cabildo of Tenerife, who lives on Paseo de La Manzanilla, up in La Laguna, on the same promenade where Fernando Fernández lives. I think the party in Lanzarote has recovered. Recently Alejandro has been appointed secretary of the PP in the reorganization in Parliament and continue with tranquility. Not to have nostalgia nor to feel worried because at this time we are not governing. On the contrary, I think that a party when it is governing conditioned, the best thing to do is to separate from that governability. And we were governing quite conditioned. So I see the PP in Fuerteventura very well, in Fuerteventura the polls give us better than what Asamblea Majorera and the PSOE thought and waiting, preparing and organizing the elections, since practically within seven or eight months we have to be working with everything ready.